and there it goes *spoilers up to the eps seen*

[marshall_banana]

there you have it; hope that makes the prophecy a bit clearer now... the two types of dream showing kamui vs. kamui and fuma vs. kamui were showing the same thing, one was just more literal than the other.

fuma is the other kamui! he has now been completely possessed by what kamui could have become; the idea of possession is important, as you have to realise that fuma isn't doing all this stuff just because he wants to now - that was the line the movie took (essentially) and it sucked so much.

either way, it's all pretty nasty stuff for kamui to go through, but it makes sense; whatever side kamui fell to, there had to be an opposing seat for his twin-star to fall to.

as for kotori...poor kotori

[fallenangel]

i for one thought it was a bit late to introduce the fact that kotori was a dreamseer (or had they said that previously?). And I also thought that she might have stayed on a bit with kazuki (? - the guy hooked up to the hospital machines in the hotel) in the dream, that could've been interesting.

[marshall_banana]

as far as i can remember, it hadn't been mentioned, but it had certainly been hinted at. that's the reason that kotori was able to have the same dreams that fuma and kamui did, so when it's revealed she's a dreamseer, it's more a "aaah, that's how she was able to" rather than "eh?", at least i thought so she didn't realise it either remember!

kotori died though, that's why she couldn't stay with kakyou (kakyou kazuki); he can remember her in dreams true, but as an actual person he can't talk to her anymore. his conversations with hokuto are all in the past, as he dreams he remembers, he sees nothing new. might have been interesting, but you need to keep kotori out the series as much as possible to make her death relevant.

even although kotori was a bit of a wet-fish of a character, i still thought she was a nice girl, and that it's pretty grim what happens to her.

anyways, just so i know where we are in the series now, what was the last ep you guys saw?

[RyoOhki]

No severed head hugging in this death scene. I'm mildy disappointed.

[phanax]

the last episode was where the divine sword is sealed in the centre of the pentagram of the campus, and the other is given to fume

[Shounen Zanbatou]

Is it me or was the whole Kamui vs. Kamui thing a rather obvious hint. Assuming we ignore the intro... it's just the most obvious thing to do.

Not that I'm complaining, it's a good thing to do. Given the whole thing is about facing destiny, the obviousness of the "twist" fits in very nicely with the whole scheme of things.

[phanax]

I agree it seems to fit, it wasn't quite what I'd envisaged, but it works pretty well, not only that it adds another level with the way Kamui wants to save fume rather than just destroy him

btw did any-one else think it slightly suspect the way the guy who went into kamui's mind wanted to be left lying on top of him for a bit?

No? Just me then.

[marshall_banana]

yeah, the kamui vs. kamui thing is a bit obvious, but i didn't want to spell it out for anyone and whilst it's true to say the series is about facing destiny, there's a slight development you can make that makes it more...interesting; it's about facing the inevitability of destiny

so far, everything has been happening as hinoto and kakyou have predicted. everything. remember kanoe said that hinoto did not know the path that kamui would take (i.e., to be a dragon of heaven or earth). but since there are two of them, a kamui of heaven and of earth, that doesn't mean that hinoto doesn't know the future, as surely the future would be the same no matter what side kamui fell to as his twin star would occupy the position he did not take? is it simply that she did not know who would be who in the future (i.e. kamui or fuma in her visions)? does hinoto know the future because it is written like everything else has been, or does it not exist yet and kamui is the one to change it? food for thought

the inevitability of fate is a very intriguing notion in x