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Post by Indefinite Description on Oct 24, 2005 21:02:00 GMT
Usual policy: the intro gets skipped 2/3 of the time, the credits always.
I hadn't noticed those changes; of course, it doesn't help that besides the skipping there are week-long gaps between viewings.
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Post by Indefinite Description on Oct 24, 2005 21:57:52 GMT
I'd be more inclined to support you if, apart from discovering the joys of pursuing co-operation and consent before issuing threats, you'd take a less hard-line position and allow a standard policy of non-skipping to be overturned by majority vote, in case enough people find a given sequence voteworthily unlovely. If memory serves nobody exactly sprang forward to defend the ending theme of Escaflowne -- you are of course entitled to differ -- and I wouldn't be entirely surprised to find the credits of Witch Hunter Robin not enthralling many people on the third showing of an evening.
Oh, and while ultimata come readily enough to diplomats, from a philosophical point of view argumenta ad baculum can't be accepted, and just suggest a lack of confidence. How strongly do you actually believe in your aesthetic views? (I don't do the Aesthetics module, so the proverbial playing field is quite even...)
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Post by Indefinite Description on Oct 24, 2005 22:53:08 GMT
Yes, what kind of lunatics are we, posting this late?
I can't tell how often you turned up last year because I don't know what you look like. In my mind identity can be a fairly ephemeral notion.
My basic point was that you'd do better to say: here's my proposal, this is why I want this to be done, it isn't going to cause the rest of you to suffer more than minor repetition, ergo it is desirable. By going straight to threatening to pull out of the game, as it were, you rob yourself of a chance to find agreement. I don't care much for the skipping either, in point of fact; I merely take the view that if enough people actually dislike a given sequence they needn't be subjected to it, say, more than once in an evening. It may be possible to get a good deal of what you want without resorting to desperate measures.
You are of course fully entitled to cease participation in the Society if on balance you decide that further participation would not be to your advantage. However, I suspect that the Society would fall apart fairly quickly anyway if enough people took a similar approach to seeking policy change; this is the sort of thing debate and democracy are supposed to alleviate.
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Post by Indefinite Description on Oct 24, 2005 23:11:31 GMT
Ah... I need to talk to real people more... You and I both. [Insert muttering about the state of society and how Nietzsche, properly understood, was so prescient.] But are you implying I'm not real? Good luck with the project work, anyway. And the people. Good grief, Tuesday already. I'd better log out and leave you to your C++.
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Post by G-man on Oct 25, 2005 9:36:34 GMT
We do not watch open/close sequences for every episode because the sequences are about 5 minutes long combined. If we watch 6 episodes a meeting it adds up to half an hour. Rooms can only be booked to 9.30 and meetings can only start at seven, because people in colleges need to have time to have their dinners. Currently the meetings end at about 9.20. We do not have the time, and given the choice between watching an extra episode or watching 6 credit sequences, most people will choose the episode.
We don't show closing sequences at all cause the usual policy was to show them at the end of the last episode of the series. May change that if you think we're really missing out.
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Post by Shounen Zanbatou on Oct 25, 2005 10:33:37 GMT
Of course, any sane anime watcher will have a playlist of their favourite intros/outros... or is that just me? mmmm, intro music
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Post by phanax on Oct 25, 2005 13:29:46 GMT
personally I don't see a problem with watching the opening credits of the first episode we watch each week as this does set the mood nicely (Fruits basket for example is a beautiful opening sequence), but to have the opening and closing for every episode seems a little excessive. I've no objection to watchiong the closing credits at the end of the third episode we watch each week. Also, with respect to the trailers for the next episode, when you're about to watch the episode any-way it seems fairly pointless, perhaps just for the last episode again.... consider my two cents dispensed
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Post by Indefinite Description on Oct 25, 2005 13:54:01 GMT
Some trailers make an effort to be at least somewhat interesting; notably, to watch Excel Saga without the trailers would be to miss out on much wonderful stuff. ('I tried planting a persimmon seed in front of the apartment, but nothing has changed at all. Perhaps I need peanuts after all, or could something very basic be wrong?') Not all trailers even approach this standard, though. Of course, any sane anime watcher will have a playlist of their favourite intros/outros... or is that just me? mmmm, intro music In many cases, the full version of the intro theme rather than the short version that actually appears in the intro. However, said intro will be an audio- visual experience... If you were thinking of playlists of intro/credits video sequences, I'm afraid I fall short of sanity as you've defined it.
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Post by Shounen Zanbatou on Oct 25, 2005 15:31:21 GMT
I'm afraid I fall short of sanity as you've defined it. I'm pretty sure we'd already determined that There is something to be said for not watching the end credits though, or at least get the timing *damn* good... remember Paranoia Agent... oh the spoilers!
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Post by Indefinite Description on Oct 25, 2005 15:55:39 GMT
I'm afraid I fall short of sanity as you've defined it. I'm pretty sure we'd already determined that Not in terms of your definition, though. I don't think sanity is commonly defined in terms of playlists. ( Source)
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Post by Shounen Zanbatou on Oct 26, 2005 11:25:47 GMT
Got the black mages? Or are you not a fan of Nobuo sama?
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Post by marshall_banana on Oct 26, 2005 12:56:17 GMT
i don't see the point in the closing credits to be honest, as there are few people who can read kanji. i think dave holds the only claim on this forum to be able to do so (and by that i mean, CAN ACTUALLY READ japanese properly). mu-chan, since you seem to know who is in them all already, is it entirely necessary? if just for the music then you should be able to wait until the final episode of the night, as the openings are only shown on the first episode...
let's not turn this into a case of "i'm a better anime fan than you are cause i do x and y"...which is where this seems to be going...
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Post by phanax on Oct 26, 2005 15:39:07 GMT
I think you're probably gonna have to surrender to both: A) popular opinion & B) practical constraints on time at meetings
don't get me wrong, we all see your point, but it's just not... amacable
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Post by marshall_banana on Oct 26, 2005 15:44:22 GMT
I think you're probably gonna have to surrender to both: A) popular opinion & B) practical constraints on time at meetings don't get me wrong, we all see your point, but it's just not... amacable viva democracy!
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Post by phanax on Oct 27, 2005 11:25:26 GMT
it's ok, I don't think anyone took is as a competetive comment.
Also (and this is my opinion only) whilst I understand the value of watching openings/endings, I just can't quite get excited about the idea of watching the same opening/closing sequences three times in one sitting.
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