Chougokin du Hanasen - Free Talk Corner

[Maruno]

muchan said:

"The other seal on this level hasn't been severed yet... so she's either lying or didn't do it properly..." Ai Rin thought silently to herself.

Hey, c'mon, I wanted her to have broken the seal. It's something of a testament to her strength, because Fire is generally weak against Wind, but she's defeated the Wind monster (that was probably just as strong and annoying as the Wartoise). It's a foreboding thing.

Besides, how would Ai Rin know if the seal had been broken or not? Last I recall, she spent hours drawing magic circles to map it. Has she developed a link with it that tells her immediately its condition? Because that's not apparent to me.

And I doubt a prominent member of the Rola would be so sloppy as to not have properly broken the seal. They're all at least as good as Fen is at his full strength, and they'll have at least someone (probably several people) who know about seals and how exactly to break them. That's why the Rola is such a strong force, despite having been outnumbered by the Chougokin at least 20 to 1.

[Mu-chan]

muchan said:

Ai Rin looked at Lu Meria in the corner of her eye. The glance they gave each other looked more like a short conversation just between the two of them. Ai Rin returned her eyes towards the guardian and wondered what Fen's, or the guardian's next move would be.

A presence has been noticed, following what happened the night before.

muchan said:

Ai Rin, still keeping her eye on the guardian kneeled down and gently touched the ground with her left hand. A moment later she stood up again.
"Looks like this one won't let us near the seal unless it's dead," she thought to herself.

"Don't let yourself get worn out on this one. If you need help, just ask. We've got more to do after this one." she called out to Fen.

Ai Rin checks the current seal and hints that a presence was sensed already rather than just that they have more guardians to deal with. Everything she did before with the large diagrams was to roughly find the seals, to be able to recognise them, how to go about breaking them and most importantly at the time how they link to the centre seal and about the draining effect. Although she definitely doesn't know everything, including the stuff she tried to find out with the diagrams, this seal is on the same layer as the other one so they are linked together (both must be broken before the next layer can be touched), yet the link has most likely not been severed or it would have shown in this seal, at least from Ai Rin's point-of-view as she has not noticed it has been severed when she quickly checked this seal after another presence was already sensed. That's what I was thinking.

I didn't say Claire didn't defeat the other guardian, just that the seal was not broken, like how the Wartoise was defeated but this seal has not yet been broken either, since it seemed consistant with what went on before. Each layer the seals get harder to break. The one before Fen and Ai Rin now may even be difficult for them to break. Ai Rin has already commented on how deep it is compared to the previous layer.

If it really bothers you though, I'll just erase that line. It doesn't affects things much anyway...

[Mu-chan]

Have I got this time continuity roughly right?

morning/afternoon one - Fen fights
afternoon/evening one -Fen travels
evening/night one - meet Ai Rin, defeat wolves, Fen collapses
morning two - wake up in village, get attacked, forced to leave, rest outside Ai Rin exhausted
afternoon two -Fen guards Ai Rin
evening to early night two - travel back to forest, examine seal
night two - break two seals gaining new summon and focus, sleep for a few hours
morning three - wake up, prepare selves, Fen unlocks magical weapon
afternoon three - head into forest to break next seal, meet Claire, leave forest?
late afternoon three - ...

[Maruno]

Possibly. I've lost track. Although I think your "late morning three" should be "afternoon three" instead. I imagine they got up late (around noon, maybe) on day 3, having battled a couple of monsters and Jathe during the evening and night of day 2. I can't remember whether the time was specified.

[Mu-chan]

Changed late morning three to afternoon three. That one depended on how long they slept and rested for given the conditions etc which I wasn't sure of.
Changed afternoon three to late afternoon three. Late afternoon because not too much time would have passed for that one seal and that encounter IMO.

[Maruno]

muchan said:

Late afternoon because not too much time would have passed for that one seal and that encounter IMO.

That's true.

[Mu-chan]

Just to let you know, I'll post a reply when I'm slightly less busy~
Currently upgrading my website and behind on the comic I'm working on too. ^^

So~ Be please patient a little longer~ XD

[Maruno]

Aah, you're doing work. That explains it. More than I'm doing, certainly

[Maruno]

Just some notes for reference, so I can keep things (pretty much) straight. This lot is about the Rola.

A Rola member was seen in the village 4 days ago (3 days before morning two).

Last Fen heard, there were about 6 Rola. He hasn't heard of anyone but Claire and Dan, though. There can be some more Rola (i.e. newer members) if needs be.

• Jathe Quren, male, Earth/Electricity
  
  • Raltz, male, Earth/Electricity
    
• Claire "Flame Alchemist" Florenca, female, Fire, defected
  
• Tyro "Typhoon" Tileran, male, Water/(Ice)
  
  • Senta, male, Water
    
• Kiran Lee, female, Wind/Nature/(Force), analyst
  
  • Alice Di Baramsara, female, Nature
    
  • Lero, male, Psyche
    
• Dan, male, , leader
  

I can't remember if it was said how many male and female characters are in the Rola (i.e. Claire saying she was the only female, or something like that).

I've also updated the descriptions of each type of magic, on the first page of this thread, and included generic strengths/weaknesses of each one.

[Mu-chan]

Having three remaining Rola up against the main characters should probably be fine IMO. I remember it being said several times that the Rola is a small elite group, so that small group ranging in abilities fits well IMO~
But... Three VS Three... When the narration said the Rola have the advantage of number, we can just interperate that as they can choose who to fight who, rather than they have more people, maybe? Or just have another one added as well as the leader? Or even say there are more than three left and have the others unseen killed by one of the two remaining guardians! XP

[Maruno]

I like your suggestions. So many possible explanations.

Yeah, at the moment it's still hazy. The last Fen heard, the Rola was only a small group (exact number unknown). Note that he's probably comparing the size of the Rola to the size of the Chougokin (two hundred), so even 20 would be small by comparison (thus leaving the exact number handily vague). Claire will know how many there are left, but she hasn't said anything (just that they're likely to be able to manipulate the battle in their favour). They'll still fight one-on-one, because the Rola are all quite independent. I imagine a 3-on-3 brawl could be quite messy to write.

The only problem with such a small number, though, is that I can't see how they would have built up such a big reputation (at least in the West) with just half a dozen members. Maybe they have trainees/hangers-on/Fraccion (personal armies). Or maybe not all of the Rola are even there at the forest, or, as you say, have been/will be killed off by a Guardian.

Another point is that Claire doesn't know at all how well Ai Rin can fight. Perhaps she's just not counting her, so she considers it two against at least three, which is obviously the disadvantage of numbers even if you don't add anyone else.

[Mu-chan]

The not all the Rola being in the forest part could work too... so Claire's answer could be just how many she thinks could be present or something rather than how many there are in total remaining...

With a small group number, I would have thought they could still get quite a reputation from doing certain things i.e. stuff that gets people's attention, or of a high-difficulty so they become famous or infamous for that, or rivalling the Chougokin at certain missions so they become noticable to the Chougokin but only certain members' names are well-known. So, rather than doing lots of bad things or whatever, they do big noticable things even as a small group... is what I was thinking. ^^
I mean, often in these types of stories, small groups and loners etc get famous for doing big events. They are a specialist group afterall. ^^
(if they were all different colours, they could even be a bad sentai team :V)

I'll leave it to you to decide! XD

[Mu-chan]

Why does Fen know that this "Typhoon" uses Water? AFAIK, Claire hasn't said anything about type specialities to Fen or Ai Rin, and you said above that Fen only knew about Claire and Dan. Was it something discussed off-scene away from Ai Rin?

I take it Claire has forgotten that she's seen Lu Meria as well...?

[Maruno]

Fen knows about Typhoon and his Water abilities because he asked Claire about them offscreen, probably when Ai Rin was having her bath. I might have put in a scene between the two of them if you hadn't ended the day with your last post, but no worries. Let's just assume for now that Fen knows everything Claire has told Ai Rin.

Claire probably barely noticed Lu Meria. She was busy fighting Fen, nearly dying, and then somewhat lost in her own thoughts for a bit. She knew about the Ice Mask because Ai Rin mentioned it during their recent conversation, and she probably glimpsed it at just before the start of the battle. I've retconned my last post.

As for me saying Fen hadn't heard of anyone (alive) but Claire and Dan in my post above, I wrote that a while ago. He's obviously since learnt about the rest of the group here (i.e. all those listed above), even though he may not know the details. He knows as much as Ai Rin does, I suspect.

[Maruno]

May 13, 2008 17:58:45 GMT Mu-chan said:

<<OOC: Took me a while to think of something that wouldn't be out of character for Ai Rin since your last post initially felt like it was forcing my character far too much into your characters' stride, against Ai Rin's personality. >>

Sorry. I was just trying to move things along a little, and my mind's getting a little tired this time of year so my roleplaying ability is suffering. You could have always stuck some conversation into the middle of my last post if you wanted. It's still something of a walk from the house to the edge of the forest, so there's room for some more discussion.

If you want, I can delete some of what I said (probably back to just going outside - I don't see any reason to hang around inside the house with the old woman (Dana) any longer). Feel free to say yes if you want to; it's no problem.

I really should get to writing down, in a simple form, a summary of the story and what's been going on and other information, so I don't forget things and end up contradicting myself.